CNN: Pastor says, Want Your Baby Baptised?  Then Show Him the Ring.

CNN: Pastor says, Want Your Baby Baptised? Then Show Him the Ring.

One Tennessee pastor has had enough.

Author : Christelyn Karazin

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Christelyn is married with four children.

While NWNW has no religious or political affiliation, it is however, refreshing to see that some churches are trying to make a stand against the rampant out-of-wedlock problem.

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  1. Cierra
    February 4, 2011

    I’m all for “marriage before babies” but I don’t think these out-of-wedlock families should be punished by the by not being allowed to have their babies baptized in their home church. I’m sure its ok to be baptized anywhere, but this seems like it will create a since of rejection in those out-of-wedlock families who can probably use some support from the church.

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  2. Herb
    February 4, 2011

    Amen to this pastor! I’m 100% in favor of tough love and sick and tired of the bleeding heart enablers who do us all a disservice with their useless pity and excuses. People have no incentive to change if there are no consequences for inappropriate behavior.

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  3. Adrienne Jenkins
    February 4, 2011

    This pastor is right. The Bible is very clear on this issue. This is really not open to debate for those who have supposedly *subscribed* to a set of values and standards of behavior–by becoming a member of a Christian CHURCH. A church should not devote any time or resources to celebrate and extend privileges to parents for continuing to do something expressly forbidden in the Bible. That is, if they truly *believe* in what they teach.

    This is not simply a tough-love “attitude”. This is a pastor reminding his flock (for which he is morally responsible) of the teachings of his faith. Treating out of wedlock births as no big deal would be a sin.

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  4. Kitkat
    February 8, 2011

    Pfft, im glad I can get my baby baptised and don’t have to show ANY one a ring. This was dumb. Lets punish the babies hmmm…waste of my time this was

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  5. LorMarie
    February 14, 2011

    This was the wrong move on the part of the pastor. He could have spoken out against the OOW problem without rejecting the child. As for the bible, we have to be careful when we refer to it since it says a lot of things that will make the average person cringe (like death by stoning for children who are disobedient). Many reputable sources state that the “biblical bastard” were not OOW children per se but were children born in “unrecognized marriages” like between Jew/Israelite and nonJews/Israelites (thus why some people believe that mixed marriages are wrong). To go even further, a case can be made that NO baby should be baptized but “dedicated” instead. But that’s another story.

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  6. Pat Anthony
    March 8, 2011

    Ouch! Are some using old testament laws? Adults should be baptized according to new testament…no child should be turned away from a church b/c parent made error or poor choice.

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  7. Ray Engvaldsen
    April 12, 2011

    I live in Memphis and couldn,t be more pleased and proud of this pastor.. In my opinion this is just the approach he should be taking. he will of course baptize the baby just not in the church. Peer pressure and social disapproval is a significant tool in this struggle to have a healthy family.

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  8. Monet
    April 15, 2011

    I personally am not a follower of the church, but I support the Pastor’s decision. One of the things that I find most distasteful about so called “Christians” is the picking and choosing of what biblical laws that they adhere to. It is not leading by example to be in the club and laying up with this person and that person and then have yourself sitting in church on Sunday. You are either a Christian or you aren’t. Many so called Christians are the first ones to judge the next man, and Jesus said “Judge not, lest ye be judged”.

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  9. Name
    April 27, 2011

    Did anyone actually listen to the story? They will baptize the children, just not in the church. And I agree. It’s not punitive for the children, it’s providing accountability for the parents to have some self restraint, use protection, or be responsible. I’m not saying force marriage on young kinds, but they shouldn’t be sleeping with someone they wouldn’t marry in the first place.

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  10. Nicole T.
    May 12, 2011

    As a woman with a child born outside of marriage…this saddens me. I recommitted my life to Christ once I became aware that I had a precious child on the way, and ever since then, my status as an unwed mother has plagued me. I have prayed consistently for the growth and development of my relationship with my son’s father, that it could grow strong enough that we could be married. I have ceased that sinful lifestyle that brought about my little boy in the first place. Despite these changes and my diligent prayer…I am still unmarried. He is still unwilling to make that commitment and accept those responsibilities. Should my child suffer further public disgrace? I’m sorry, what would Jesus do in this situation, if I came before him looking to be reborn in his love? If my son approached him, wanting healing? He would say, SORRY KID, You’re parents are dirty sinners. You’re gonna have to go down to the free clinic and see what they can do for you. We don’t promote your kind here.

    Y’all who agree with this pastor…totally missing the point. This is why so many people who would come to Christ stay away from the Church. Because of this self-righteous, judgmental bull garbage. I think it’s more important to ensure that the parent(s) intend to ACTUALLY actively lead the child in the way he should go, rather than making sure there’s a piece of jewelry on the participants left hand.

    I’m all for NWNW, but this is too much.

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  11. LaShonda
    August 6, 2011

    I’m all for this but not for the reason’s the pastors are giving. Baptism is a commitment of one person to God-a commitment a person needs to make the individual choice of. Baptizing babies seems to fly in the face of informed consent, for lack of a better way to put it. Christening a child is one thing, but baptism is taking a vow, and children in general and babies specifically aren’t old enough to make those vows. Raise the child up in the faith you would like them to have then give them the freedom to make that choice openly.

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  12. Joe
    July 13, 2012

    I don’t know why anyone would be upset for a child of unmarried parents to be baptized; so long as the child had been saved, it shouldn’t matter if his/her parents were living out of wedlock or even hardcore criminals.
    Of course, since infants aren’t yet mature to understand the plan of Salvation, naturally they aren’t yet saved (though babies don’t go to hell) and therefore all you would be doing would be getting them wet.

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