Archive for the ‘Criticism of NWNW’ Category

0 Heartbreaking Mini-Film: 16-year-old in Foster Care for 14 Years

Heartbreaking Mini-Film: 16-year-old in Foster Care for 14 Years

This is part of a post about the out-of-wedlock problem in the Black Community. And while I don’t completely agree with social support being the panacea to solve the problem, because it COMPLETELY deflects personal responsibility. It’s still worth reading.


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3 Chicago Sun-Times Critic of NWNW Takes Heat from Readers

Chicago Sun-Times Critic of NWNW Takes Heat from Readers

Chicago Sun-Times columnist, Mary Mitchell’s piece, “Kicking Single Moms While Thier Down,” was a critical piece in response to NWNW got blowback from readers sick and tired of the same old excuses.


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0 No Wedding No Womb: D*cks, Dudes & Decisions

No Wedding No Womb: D*cks, Dudes & Decisions

Knowledge equals power, so if we tell these young people that becoming a parent is both a decision and a commitment then maybe more will wait until a more stable time in their lives.


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5 ABSOLUTE MUST READ: “Gift Wrapping a Soiled Diaper”

ABSOLUTE MUST READ: “Gift Wrapping a Soiled Diaper”

Black women have to look at deeper issues concerning their values, the choices they are making (especially choosing bad men), etc if they want to really deal with this problem. Too many Black women see people like Beyonce (and others in Black urban circles- particularly in Hip Hop- and yes I hate them all), as their role models.


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1 (Open Forum) Can You Be in Both Support and Opposition to NWNW?  Well, Yes and No.

(Open Forum) Can You Be in Both Support and Opposition to NWNW? Well, Yes and No.

This anonymous blog post was sent to me by a fellow NWNW participant. Kind of like the John Kerry, “I was for it before I was against it,” just vice versa. She makes good points, though. I think that if we can move beyond some of the vitriol and address the central issue, we’ll all be better off and I can cancel my prescription for Xanax.


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1 Debra J. Dickerson: So You Increase the Black Marriage Rate. So What?

Debra J. Dickerson: So You Increase the Black Marriage Rate. So What?

“You’re anti-feminist!” “No, you are!” “You’re an Uncle Tom for making this a black issue!” ” You reprinted my post without permission!” Meanwhile, the prospective newlyweds schtup along, unaware and unperturbed, while the pixels fly.


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0 Criticism: Exception Proves the Rule?

Criticism: Exception Proves the Rule?

FatJuicyOyster I don’t want to write a post about the online initiative started by my girl Christelyn at Beyond Black and Whitecalled, No Wedding No Womb, which calls for women to get married before having children, and barring that being “wedded” to the two-parent raising of the child. But here goes… I can get down [...]


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0 (Open Forum) Reasonable Criticism of NWNW

(Open Forum) Reasonable Criticism of NWNW

I am an advocate of the traditional family structure as what I consider the strongest form in which children may be raised. I thought this was a simple position to hold but being a man that is in this constant state of flux regarding the implications of his words, I immediately took issue with the word “traditional”


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8 No Wedding, No Womb, NO WAY ~ by Erika Parker (a.k.a. focsimama) of “Focsi Mama Speaks” [Criticism, Open Forum]

No Wedding, No Womb, NO WAY ~ by Erika Parker (a.k.a. focsimama) of “Focsi Mama Speaks” [Criticism, Open Forum]

to make generalizations and through around statics without framing or contextualizing them is irresponsible and detrimental. i understand that something needs to change within us all, as a community, but sliding back into history to shame and ostracize single mothers is not the answer.


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0 The Easy, Sexy Silence of Privilege ~ by Kismet of “Nuñez Daughter”  [Criticism, Open Forum, Solutions]

The Easy, Sexy Silence of Privilege ~ by Kismet of “Nuñez Daughter” [Criticism, Open Forum, Solutions]

Unfortunately, over the course of the last week, the conversation grew increasingly vicious. Twitfam were getting blocked and swarmed, misconstrued and misunderstood. The vitriol came from both sides (Note to Self: Is “Google it if you want to” the new “Meet me outside”?) and none of it is fostered productive and healthy debate.


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2 What’s the Real Motive Behind “No Wedding, No Womb”? ~ by Bené Viera of “Writing While Black” [Criticism, Open Forum]

What’s the Real Motive Behind “No Wedding, No Womb”? ~ by Bené Viera of “Writing While Black” [Criticism, Open Forum]

“[Christelyn is] a mother of four children–three of them biracial–and has been married to her husband, Michael, (who just happens to be white) for eight happy, hectic years.” Hmmm. Now why would she need to profess to the world that three of her four children are biracial, and her husband is white?


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24 You’re Married to a White Man! You’re Not Qualified to Lead! — My Reply to “Advocacy for the Self-Inflicted Genocide of a Stolen People?” by ggSpiritWrites [Criticism, Rebuttal, Open Forum]

You’re Married to a White Man! You’re Not Qualified to Lead! — My Reply to “Advocacy for the Self-Inflicted Genocide of a Stolen People?” by ggSpiritWrites [Criticism, Rebuttal, Open Forum]

Here is my comment from this post. I guess I should really thank these people for martyring me. Anyone in their right mind can see through this. Here’s the problem with your arguement about me and my husband (by the way, is so low a blow that I can’t even tell you) his ancestry did [...]


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4 Responsible Writing, Stereotypes, and Data ~ by April Joyner [Criticism, Open Forum]

Responsible Writing, Stereotypes, and Data ~ by April Joyner [Criticism, Open Forum]

[Note by CHRISTELYN] –> “My goal is to keep this debate honest. I don’t not wish to silence critics, but I think those who read someone’s INTERPRETATION of the NWNW movement should have the benefit of seeing both sides. I’m really, really trying to keep this fair. The conversation has gotten too important to suppress. Remember folks: If 72% of your house was burning down, would you ask for a program, argue statistics, or propose a study on how it started? If you possess the survival instinct, you would run like hell, or FIGHT like hell to put that fire out because that house means so much to you. Period.”


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21 G.D. of “PostBourgie” Labels NWNW As “Anti-Feminist” [Criticism, Open Forum]

G.D. of “PostBourgie” Labels NWNW As “Anti-Feminist” [Criticism, Open Forum]

There are reasons besides the push’s barely masked antifeminism to be ambivalent about this whole endeavor. The movement has the stunty feel of holding funerals for “nigger” or stomping on hip-hop CDs (‘member those?) with explicit lyrics; it’s taken a tricky issue and reduced it to a bunch of folks being showily indignant.


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18 Why No Wedding No Womb Doesn’t Work ~ by Jamilah Lemieux (a.k.a. Sister Toldja) of “The Beautiful Struggler” [Criticism, Open Forum]

Why No Wedding No Womb Doesn’t Work ~ by Jamilah Lemieux (a.k.a. Sister Toldja) of “The Beautiful Struggler” [Criticism, Open Forum]

I understand the spirit of what NWNW is attempting to do: restore dignity to Black women and create better living conditions for Black children. These are noble goals. However, even with evidence that married persons may have greater inroads to class mobility and a stable lifestyle and that children raised in two parent households tend to fare better than those of us raised by single parents…marriage alone can’t restore dignity to Black women or guarantee a better life for Black children. Furthermore, there is an anti-feminist moral code that is implied here that doesn’t sit well with me.


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4 PR Watch: Bad Time for No Wedding No Womb ~ by @WhyMeLawd of “Media Strut” [Criticism, Open Forum]

PR Watch: Bad Time for No Wedding No Womb ~ by @WhyMeLawd of “Media Strut” [Criticism, Open Forum]

Media Strut mediastrut.com For those who don’t know, No Wedding No Womb is a movement started by Christelyn D. Karazin and Lorraine Spencer to encourage responsible relationships and parenting (broadly speaking). Karazin is now married but spent some time as a single mother and has stated that she wishes she’d made some different choices in [...]


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